Comments on: Asbestos cleanup still plagued http://www.asbestoswatch.net/featured/libby-cleanup-still-plagued/ A nonprofit online news magazine dedicated to original investigative reporting on asbestos issues. Sun, 25 Jul 2010 18:33:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Gordon Sullivan http://www.asbestoswatch.net/featured/libby-cleanup-still-plagued/comment-page-1/#comment-40 Gordon Sullivan Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:19:56 +0000 http://www.asbestoswatch.net/?p=239#comment-40 With regard to the "nothing changed" comment, a few weeks ago a significant release of asbestos bearing material, flowed into the Kootenai River where endangered species are a major consideration. When asked why the EPA never reported the release to the Montana Department of Enviromental Quality, or the USFWS, project managers went back almost a decade to hang their hat on flawed science. Managers maintain that in the past the material in question had been sampled and tested by PLM and resulted in a "non-detect reading". Anyone, including kids in our local grade school, who understand the EPA, knows full well that a non-detect result under PLM does not constitute the absence of asbestos. To the contrary, non-detect samples may contain huge levels of asbestos and maybe "very dangerous". This is deception at it's best. Something the EPA Region 8 has gotten very good at doing. With regard to the “nothing changed” comment, a few weeks ago a significant release of asbestos bearing material, flowed into the Kootenai River where endangered species are a major consideration. When asked why the EPA never reported the release to the Montana Department of Enviromental Quality, or the USFWS, project managers went back almost a decade to hang their hat on flawed science. Managers maintain that in the past the material in question had been sampled and tested by PLM and resulted in a “non-detect reading”. Anyone, including kids in our local grade school, who understand the EPA, knows full well that a non-detect result under PLM does not constitute the absence of asbestos. To the contrary, non-detect samples may contain huge levels of asbestos and maybe “very dangerous”. This is deception at it’s best. Something the EPA Region 8 has gotten very good at doing.

]]> By: Mike Crill Missoula,Mt http://www.asbestoswatch.net/featured/libby-cleanup-still-plagued/comment-page-1/#comment-14 Mike Crill Missoula,Mt Sun, 17 May 2009 05:24:44 +0000 http://www.asbestoswatch.net/?p=239#comment-14 FLASH!!!! Libby air safe. All told to take deep breathe. I shit you not... Why not put a gun to your head with five bullets instead of 1... FLASH!!!! Libby man diagnosed with asbestosis after moving to Libby 5 years ago.Who murdered that man??? FLASH!!!! Who the hell cares!!!! FLASH!!!! Libby air safe. All told to take deep breathe. I shit you not…
Why not put a gun to your head with five bullets instead of 1…
FLASH!!!! Libby man diagnosed with asbestosis after moving to Libby 5 years ago.Who murdered that man???
FLASH!!!! Who the hell cares!!!!

]]> By: Terry Trent http://www.asbestoswatch.net/featured/libby-cleanup-still-plagued/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Terry Trent Sat, 09 May 2009 07:37:13 +0000 http://www.asbestoswatch.net/?p=239#comment-7 Terry Trent says: Hi! I dunno what this web sitehttp://blog.umt.edu/gracecase/ is all about but am thinking it would be nice if it were a continuation of the previous Grace Case web site. It was so refreshing hearing from sources other than the usual suspects (our almost completely lost newspapers and books). May I suggest that comments be distributed between this web site and Paul Peters new web site at http://www.asbestoswatch.net/2009/05/07/introducing-asbestos-watch/ or http://www.asbestoswatch.net/2009/05/07/feds-release-rumple-report/. I hope to see the whole gang, yes you too Mr. Latham, for whom I have gained a great deal more respect, and everyone else who I have learned respect for, at these two new sites. My first topic, although by no means obligates any of you in your own first topics, will be to answer Student and Steve Erickson and explain to them that “asbestos” is not a lazy man’s subject, opinions are hard fought and studied for to be accurate and are not taken lightly. That the truth lays in the publications and histories of the great men who have devoted their lives to this subject, and the “whack” lays in the publications, histories and monstrous (in magnitude) neglect perpetrated by our old Public Health agency now EPA/ATSDR. How EPA’s actions and inactions do not exonerate anyone….yet their shear size by comparison dwarfs WR Grace’s infractions. Also how I am not responsible that our government wasn’t smart enough to press the correct charges against Grace….or even the correct people. Finally the 5 defendants exonerated themselves in front a jury of their peers and a Judge who paid attention. They did it easily and swiftly, although I suspect they are all emotional basket cases by now. Do not attempt to take that away from them. The jury in reality didn’t even have to think about it much, they just did what was right, almost immediately. Our EPA could learn a lot about doing what is right…immediately…from such people. Best regards, Terry Terry Trent says:

Hi! I dunno what this web sitehttp://blog.umt.edu/gracecase/ is all about but am thinking it would be nice if it were a continuation of the previous Grace Case web site. It was so refreshing hearing from sources other than the usual suspects (our almost completely lost newspapers and books). May I suggest that comments be distributed between this web site and Paul Peters new web site at http://www.asbestoswatch.net/2009/05/07/introducing-asbestos-watch/ or http://www.asbestoswatch.net/2009/05/07/feds-release-rumple-report/. I hope to see the whole gang, yes you too Mr. Latham, for whom I have gained a great deal more respect, and everyone else who I have learned respect for, at these two new sites.

My first topic, although by no means obligates any of you in your own first topics, will be to answer Student and Steve Erickson and explain to them that “asbestos” is not a lazy man’s subject, opinions are hard fought and studied for to be accurate and are not taken lightly. That the truth lays in the publications and histories of the great men who have devoted their lives to this subject, and the “whack” lays in the publications, histories and monstrous (in magnitude) neglect perpetrated by our old Public Health agency now EPA/ATSDR. How EPA’s actions and inactions do not exonerate anyone….yet their shear size by comparison dwarfs WR Grace’s infractions. Also how I am not responsible that our government wasn’t smart enough to press the correct charges against Grace….or even the correct people.

Finally the 5 defendants exonerated themselves in front a jury of their peers and a Judge who paid attention. They did it easily and swiftly, although I suspect they are all emotional basket cases by now. Do not attempt to take that away from them. The jury in reality didn’t even have to think about it much, they just did what was right, almost immediately. Our EPA could learn a lot about doing what is right…immediately…from such people.
Best regards,
Terry

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